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The Beatles First meeting with Brian Epstein: 3rd December 1961

Brian Epstein
Beatles Manager Brian Epstein
Beatles Manager Brian Epstein

Brian Epstein: After The Cavern

After having seen The Beatles at The Cavern, Brian Epstein had decided to become The Beatles’ manager. However, he had to convince them first. He summoned them to his office at NEMS and he was about to meet the group, but it wouldn’t go smoothly. Tony Broadbent, in an excerpt from his book, The One After 9:09, looks at this historic meeting.

The Beatles were coming to see him. Brian Epstein adjusted his tie for the umpteenth time and tried to stay calm. Over the last four weeks he’d seen ‘the boys’ perform many times at the Cavern. Had made a point of chatting to them on each and every occasion. Today was to be the first sit-down meeting at his office. He tried to work, but found himself fidgeting with excitement. So he went downstairs, into the store, aimlessly straightened a few things, then stood and looked out at a deserted Whitechapel.

There was little foot traffic, but that was quite normal for an overcast Sunday afternoon. He did notice, though, that what passers-by there were stopped to admire the store’s window-display, which was all very gratifying and a small thing, perhaps, but his own. Brian was shopkeeper enough to hope the interest shown would translate into Christmas sales. He consulted his wristwatch, winced, cleared his throat, shot his cuffs, blinked, and adjusted his tie again.

He’d toyed with the idea of wearing an open-necked shirt, silk cravat, and tweed sports-coat. All perfectly acceptable weekend wear. But as this could well be the beginning of a formal relationship with the group, he’d opted for workday business attire. It always paid to make the right impression. He looked at his watch again. They were now very late. He began to colour at the thought they might not come, at all, but as the flat grey December light slowly began to fade and the store darkened around him, he could do nothing but wait—and wait.

“Hey ‘oop? Is anyone in there? Mister Epstein, sir? It’s us.”

The Fab Three?

The banging on the store’s front door awoke him from his reverie and he quickly went to unlock it. There were only three Beatles standing there. He tried not to look too surprised.

“Hello. Thank you for coming. Let’s go up to my office, shall we? I see Paul isn’t with you. He’s not ill or anything, is he?”

“No, he’ll be along in a minute, Mr Epstein, sir,” replied John Lennon. “He probably just forgot to wind his watch.” The other two Beatles nodded in agreement.

Where is Paul?

He nodded, and led the way upstairs, but even after half-an-hour of strained conversation there was still no sign of Paul McCartney. He tried to still his growing frustration and the creeping sense of dread his dream was already stillborn. Almost at his wit’s end, he turned to the Beatle sitting nearest the door. “George, I wonder if you’d give Paul a ring…find out why he’s so late. I’d hate to think it was something serious. You can use the phone in the outer office.” The youngest Beatle raised his eyebrows in mock surprise, nodded, and left the room.

He smiled a thin-lipped smile at John Lennon and Pete Best, then turned and looked out of the window at the darkening Liverpool night. John pulled a face and retreated behind a handy copy of Mersey Beat. Pete did the same. And after more moments of pained silence, broken only by the murmuring from the outer office and the rustle of John’s newspaper, George came back into the room. He gently closed the door behind him, turned, and said, very calmly, “Paul’s just got up from having a nap. And he says he’s now going to have a bath.”

Very, Very Late!

Brian Epstein was incredulous. “But this…this is disgraceful behaviour. It means he’s going to be very, very late arriving.”

George nodded. “He’ll be very clean, though, won’t he?” he said, eyes twinkling, a slow smile twisting into a lopsided toothy grin. John sniggered behind the now shaking pages of Mersey Beat. Pete turned away; bit his lip. Brian Epstein blinked and blinked and blinked and suddenly his irritation completely dissolved and he started to laugh, not realising he’d just taken his first real step into the strange new world of Beatles.

When Paul finally arrived, more than an hour later, Brian Epstein was already manager enough to realise a change of scenery was called for and he suggested they all decamp to a local milk bar. Once he’d paid for everyone’s coffee and biscuits, there was little time left to beat about the bush. “Look, I don’t really know too much about managing a group, such as yours, but with all the contacts I have with the major record companies, in London, I feel certain I can help you and be of real assistance in your future endeavours. And, if you were prepared to go along with me and give me a chance, I feel sure we can do something really special together.”

London

The four Beatles listened intently to what Brian Epstein had to say. They appreciated his candour regarding his experience or, rather, the lack of it. They were already very wary of people who tooted their own horns too much. What really got to them was the magic word ‘London’. That’s where the real pot of gold was to be found—a recording contract with a major record label. It was, also, the very first time anyone had ever seriously asked about managing them. They’d be the first to admit they needed proper guidance if they were ever to achieve any real success. Still, they didn’t want to be rushed into anything, by anybody, however honest and charming they might seem.

When Brian Epstein had finished, John glanced at Paul, George and Pete, then back at their would-be manager. “Well, that’s all very nice, Mr Epstein, sir. We’ve all enjoyed the coffee and bikkies, and we definitely appreciate your interest in us. But you’ve given us a lot to chew over for one night. Plus, we’ve got to go play the Casbah Club, over in West Derby, before bedtime. So if it’s alright with you, like, we’ll just sleep on it.”

“Of course, of course. I mean, I wasn’t suggesting anything be resolved tonight.” He stood up, his hands open, his heart on his sleeve. “Thank you for hearing me out. And in closing, may I say once again how very special I think you all are, as individuals, and as a group.”

We’ll Think About it

Paul nodded, smiled, and held out his hand. “Thank you, for your interest, Mr Epstein. We’ll definitely think about it.”

He grasped the opportunity. “Then perhaps we could all meet later in the week to discuss any further questions you might have?”

Paul glanced at John, who nodded back.

“Yeah, okay then, Mr Epstein. Later this week, it is.”

“Would Wednesday afternoon be too soon? Only it’s half-day, early closing at the store, and you’re booked to play the Cavern that evening, so you could come over before that, couldn’t you?”

He knew their schedule. That was flattering. It said a lot.

“We could,” George drawled, “once we’ve all taken a bath, like.”

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The Beatles Get Back: Do We Owe An Apology?

The Beatles Get Back
The Beatles Rooftop Concert
The Beatles Rooftop Concert

Let It Be?

With all of the publicity surrounding the “new” Beatles Get Back film directed by Peter Jackson, I have had countless conversations about the new film. The anticipation is at almost fever pitch as the trailers we have seen look incredible.

It made me decide to back and watch the original “Let It Be” film that was directed by Michael Lindsay-Hogg. It has been years since I last watched it and through all the discussions over those years, one theme seems to permeate through everything: we were watching The Beatles fall apart. But were we?

Paul and George Argue

The most famous element was always the argument between Paul and George, where George tells Paul that he will play whatever Paul wants him to, or he just wouldn’t play. Fans also refer to Yoko being permanently at John’s side, which she was.

But was it a negative film? Is it too painful to watch?

I have to admit that I thoroughly enjoyed watching it again, and it was filled with lots of fun scenes where you could see all four of them enjoying what they were doing, especially when they break out into funny arrangements, or the silly voices come out, like in “Besame Mucho”. But, it wasn’t the dark, depressing film that I seemed to think it was.

The Beatles Rooftop Concert

Then of course, we end with that incredible rooftop concert. How Lindsay-Hogg and his team were able to capture that is incredible, with the limited technology and space available. Plus, when you see them performing, I think they were recapturing memories of playing to crowds, which they hadn’t done since August 1966. The Beatles were enjoying themselves and it still such an iconic film.

Apology Needed?

We know Peter Jackson’s 6 hour special series is going to be superb, and it will have been worth the wait. However, I believe we also owe an apology and debt of thanks to Michael Lindsay-Hogg who has probably had a lot of negativity surrounding the film he made. He did a great job with what he had to work with.

Let It Be or Get Back?

Yes.

Enjoy the original, but I can’t wait for the new one too.

David Bedford

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Remembering George Harrison with The Beatles Era

With The Beatles
With The Beatle
With The Beatles

The Beatles Era

As we come to remember George Harrison 20 years after he died, Peter Eijgenhuijsen looks at the cover to With The Beatles.

A friend of mine, a hard-core Beatles fan, came up with the idea of The Beatles Era when George died in 2001, this month twenty years ago. My friend was on a business trip to the United States, when he saw, in one of the offices he visited, a newspaper clipping on the wall. It showed just a picture of the cover of their second album With the Beatles with the left side made black. Only Paul and Ringo were looking at him, with serious faces, as if they were aware of their inevitable erasure.

It was then, that he realized that we were entering a new phase, that nothing would be the same ever again. It was then that he got the inspiration for his theory that we all live in The Beatles Era. An Era that can be divided in five periods: Before the Beatles, The Beatles Years, The Solo Years, The Reduced Solo Years, the period we currently live in, and the last and fifth period After the Beatles.

Everything Has a Meaning

One day, when I visited him, he showed me the impact of that moment with the album cover of With the Beatles. It was scary. The black and white picture, with from left to right John, George, Paul, and Ringo. When I covered the left side to get the effect of the newspaper picture, I understood that the effect must have been very powerful. “Of course,” my friend said, “we do not know how the period The Reduced Solo Years will end, but the order of the individual Beatles on the album cover does not look insignificant to me.” “Everything on the cover of Beatles albums, has a meaning,” I said. “Intentionally or unintentionally.”

Inspired by this story, I used the theory of The Beatles EraA Quest for the Secret of The Beatles to unravel the secret of the Beatles.

Peter Eijgenhuijsen

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10th November 1961: The Beatles at Operation Big Beat (Part 1)

The Beatles at Operation Big Beat
The Beatles at Operation Big Beat
The Beatles at Operation Big Beat

The Tower Ballroom, New Brighton

The Beatles appeared at Operation Big Beat, the most impressive line up of Merseybeat bands ever! Tony Broadbent adds the drama to this incredible event.

The dense blanket of fog had come up river late that afternoon. No one had expected it. Not even the weatherman on the telly the night before. First report of it was on the midday shipping forecast on the radio. And by mid-afternoon tongues of fog had already moved across Liverpool Bay and were licking hungrily at Wallasey, Bootle, and Crosby. By teatime, both banks of the river and ‘the Tower’, at New Brighton, were shrouded in a grey-green fog the colour of the Mersey.

All of Liverpool was completely fogbound.

“What the bloody hell did I do in my past life to deserve this?”

“Don’t know, Sam, but it must’ve been something pretty bad.”

“Bloody hell, Terry, will you look at that bloody fog.”

“Well, I would, like, if I could see anything.”

“Alright, smart arse, back inside the Grapes. This calls for some serious drinking. I’m ruined I am, bloody ruined. What time is it?”

The Beatles will Get Through

Sam Leach (right) with Paul McCartney and Pete Best
Sam Leach (right) with Paul McCartney and Pete Best

Spike glanced at his watch. “Five past, Sam. But no need to worry, I’m sure The Beatles will get through.”

“I don’t doubt it, Spike, especially with that mad sod, Nelly, driving. No, it’s the fans I’m worrying about. What with all the ferries being stopped and most of the busses not running, how in hell they’re going to get themselves there, I don’t know. You couldn’t find the bloody Tower in this fog, even if it fell on top of you. We’ll be bloody lucky if we can find it ourselves. The real sod of it is, though, ticket sales have been much less than I’d hoped. You’d think the kids had given up on rock ‘n’ roll.”

“Maybe for one night, Sam. But not in our lifetimes, they won’t.”

“Thank you, Sigmund Freud. What time is it?”

“Quarter past. What time did Neil say he’d have them here?”

“Half-past. But in this pea-souper, who the heck knows?”

Terry McCann arrived with a tray of drinks. “Look on the bright side, Sam. Just imagine The Beatles and Gerry and Rory all playing their hearts out at ‘the Tower’ just for us. Cheers.”

“I tell you, I’m ruined I am, totally bloody ruined. Cheers. Talking of which, what time is it?”

“Nigh on half past, Sam. Stop yer worrying.”

“That’s all very well for you to say, sunshine, but…”

Neil Aspinall’s Battered Bedford Van

A car-horn beeped a tattoo outside in the street and eyebrows shot up in question and hope. Spike was already at the pub door. “It’s them. All aboard the New Brighton ferry!” They downed their drinks in a rush, piled out of the Grapes, and into the back of Neil Aspinall’s battered Bedford van.

“ ‘Lo Sam. ‘Lo fellas,” chorused Neil and The Beatles.

“Get yer arses in quick or we’ll all catch our deaths,” shouted John Lennon.

“All arses aboard and accounted for, sir,” yelled Sam. “Hey, thanks for turning up, lads. At least tonight won’t be a complete bloody loss.”

“Well, wherever it is we’re going,” groaned Neil, “I’ll see if I can get us there by the middle of next week. Everyone hold on tight.”

“Next stop, the Mersey Tunnel,” shouted George.

We’ll Play For Nothing

After a few minutes of hurtling through the streets of Liverpool at five miles per hour, Paul McCartney turned to Sam and said, quietly, “Look, Sam, we were talking, like, on the way to pick you up. If this bad weather hits you hard tonight, we’ll play for nothing, okay?” Sam turned to John and George who both nodded their agreement. Pete, sitting up front, holding his snare drum on his lap, gave a thumbs-up. Sam coughed and nodded his thanks, his eyes a little glassy. Terry and Spike huddled by the back doors kept their thoughts to themselves.

When the old Bedford van at last entered the approach to the Mersey Tunnel, George yelled out again. “There it is, fellas. You can just make out the Hessy’s sign on the side of the building.”

“Oooh, Hessy’s,” yodelled John and Paul in Goon-like voices.

“Ready?” shouted John, “Hessy’s Musical Instruments and¼?”

“Ra-di-o!” The Beatles all yelled as Neil tapped out the beat on the car-horn. Then they all clapped and cheered.

“We do that every time we pass that sign,” explained Paul.

“It’s our way of wishing for the day we hear one of our own songs actually played on the radio,” added George.

Where Are We Going Fellas?

“Where we going to, fellas?” John shouted.

“To the top Johnny,” the other three Beatles chorused.

“And which top, is that, fellas?”

“To the topper-most of the popper-most,” they yelled in unison as the van rattled on through the Mersey Tunnel.

“We best start by topping the bill at ‘the Tower’, then,” John shouted back. “How much bloody higher can you get than that?”

“You guys could make it all the way to the moon, if you wanted to,” Sam said, the lump still in his throat. “Thanks, lads. I won’t forget this. Not ever.”

“Hey, shurrup will you, Sam. And start soddin’ praying, instead. We’ve got to get to the bloody place in one piece, yet.”

“Righto,” yelled Sam. “Our Lennon, who art in heaven…”

PART 2 HERE

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The Beatles on Skateboards!

John Lennon on a skateboard
John Lennon on a skateboard
John Lennon on a skateboard

The Beatles Skateboard

The Beatles Skateboard
The Beatles Skateboard

In the latest in his series on Beatles merchandise, Terry Crain takes a look at the Beatles Skateboard.

Whoa, dude! If you needed to catch some rays and hang ten with the lads, a Beatle skateboard was your item of choice. Surf Skater Company, Incorporated., 39th and Killam Avenue, in Norfolk, Virginia, manufactured a skateboard – the employees probably tested the boards in the street while on break!

Isaac Glazer founded the Surf Skater Company. Glazer was a member of the Army’s first Special Service Forces and a decorated World War II veteran, participating in the D-Day invasion. He became a Doctor of Optometry and later, founder and president of Surf Skater. Glazer died in 2007.

Dezo Hoffman Beatles Photo

The skateboard, available in three sizes and various colors, was basically a wooden board with metal wheels. The large, bold type, “The Beatles Skateboard,” was featured on the board next to the Dezo Hoffman group photo. The skateboard container had a graphic drawing of the group with embellished colorful stripes. Collector Dennis Dailey whimsically noted, “It actually looks like they spent more time and energy into designing the box than the skateboard.”

Playthings Magazine

Article Promoting The Beatles Skateboard
Article Promoting The Beatles Skateboard

A press release was published in Playthings magazine, December 1964 issue, on page 73, stated:

“Beatles Skate Board in 3 Models Now Available from Norfolk Firm

Available for immediate delivery are three models of The Beatles Skateboard, a new addition to the line of Surf Skater Company, Inc., 39th and Killam Avenue, Norfolk, Va. The Beatles have given the company the exclusive rights for the manufacture of the items. Model #210-B measures 18½” by 5¾by ¾”, #2100 B is 27″ by 6½” by 1-1/16″, and #2200-B has dimensions of 32″ by 6½” by 1-1/16″. Made of quality wood and painted in attractive colors, each features a steel wheel assembly attached with rust-preventive cadmium-plated nuts and bolts. Rubber-cushioned for faster steering and greater turning action, this assembly consists of a rigid flat steel plate attached to Union Hardware wheels with bright dust covers. Decorating the board are its name and a picture of the Beatles, which can be easily peeled off and kept as a souvenir. The skateboards are packaged in two-color cartons.”

Seltaeb

Surf Skater Co. Inc. was named in a NEMS Enterprises, Ltd vs. Seltaeb, Incorporated lawsuit filed in the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court of the State of New York, First Judicial Department, dated: New York, New York, July 6, 1965.

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It’s All Too Much for The Beatles!

David Stark giving a talk about his book
David Stark talking about his book "It's All Too Much"
David Stark talking about his book “It’s All Too Much”

IT’S ALL TOO MUCH!  DAVID STARK’S BOOK TALK, NOVEMBER 6th 2021.

Upstairs at PENTAMETERS THEATRE, Oriel Place, Heath Street, Hampstead NW3 6TE

Beatles author and music industry veteran DAVID STARK will be talking about his recent book “It’s All Too Much – Adventures of a Teenage Beatles Fan in the ’60s and Beyond” with Mike Nicholls, author of “My Life With Rock ‘N’ Roll People.” Plus live music including a few Beatles songs by acclaimed singer/songwriter Susan Black. The event will also be in tribute to publicist Judy Totton who sadly passed away this week. She secured many BBC local radio interviews and press write-ups for David’s book during the past year.

Yellow Submarine

IT’S ALL TOO MUCH is the unique memoir by music industry veteran David Stark, who grew up in north London during the 1960s as a dedicated Beatles fan and was lucky enough to meet his musical heroes on various memorable occasions. From gate-crashing the Yellow Submarine film premiere in 1968 (aged just fifteen) and ending up sitting directly behind the group, to meeting all of them individually in some extraordinary circumstances, David has some highly entertaining stories about his many Beatles encounters which have never been told before. 

Apology from Beatles & Co

The evening will also include David recalling how he won free tickets the Beatles’ live TV show in late 1968/early 1969 which never happened as they played on the rooftop of Apple instead. However, as listings for Time Out magazine of November 1968 prove, the group had actually pencilled in three nights at The Roundhouse in Chalk Farm between Dec 14-21st 1968. As David recalls, “that would have been a quite incredible event to attend. Instead, I ended up with a consolation prize of an advance copy of ‘Abbey Road’ plus a letter of apology from Beatles & Co. signed by Peter Brown and Ringo.”

All this and much more will be discussed on the night, plus David will be bringing various items of Beatles memorabilia with him.

TICKETS £13.00 (General admission) or £10 (Concessions). 

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